What antivirus do you use?

I don’t trust any one product as an end-all/be-all solution while not discounting that for the vast majority of users a single choice is the only solution.

The universe of consumer end point products is so broad (the word antivirus in this thread’s subject should be in quotes), it’s been almost a decade that I stopped making any recommendation to acquaintances who know or hear that I have a slew of industry certifications and 20+ years in the business.

But since you asked :sunglasses: And I’ve been wanting to write this up for a long time geek pal anyhow, although this here is abbreviated somewhat.

DNS - (Quad9, the PCH & IBM X-Force cooperative product)

• For my primary system, Windows 7:

MS Security Essentials. I created a scheduled task to run every four hours “MpCmdRun.exe -SignatureUpdate” under the SYSTEM account. As MS updates several times a day, this is far more efficient than waiting on a server push. “Signature” is inaccurate as MS refers to these as Definitions, three of 'em: antivirus, antispyware and network inspection system (NIS). See FYI below.

SpyShelter Anti-keylogger, default settings.

AppCheck Pro Anti-Ramsomware, exploit protection disabled because…

Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit, considerably tweaked.


• For two secondary systems running Widows 10, home and pro:

Windows default protection (Defender, SmartScreen, UAC, etc. etc.)

The aforementioned signature update scheduled task.

AppCheck Pro Anti-Ramsomware


• All systems, browser protection in Firefox 60.x ESR:

Deceptive Content and Dangerous Software Protection, enabled

Substantial tweaks to about:config prefs beyond the scope of this discussion, but these extensions will suffice with minimal burden on the user:

HTTPS Everywhere
AdGuard, phishing and malware protection enabled and using these filter sets:
-AdGuard Base, Spyware, Social Media, Annoyances (the latter two, optional)
-NoCoin Filter List

My stand-alone on-access scanning choices:
Emsisoft Emergency Kit.
ESET online scanner, but run from a local install (it can be done).

That’s it, but furthermore…

FYI on MSSE & Windows 8 & 10 Defender updates:
You might see “No new threats have been identified in this definition update” and/or “No threat detections were updated in this definition update” as the global push schemes might not coincide with new stuff at any given point in time. Thought there is a new version number, it’s basically telling MSSE or Defender, “Keep going with what you got.”

IMHO, AppCheck Anti-Ramsomware Free is quite capable.

The Windows 10 Pro system is running with an ancient Core 2 Duo E8400, G35 chipset and 4 GB RAM and my described system and browser setups present no significant slowdowns and no conflicts or depreciation due to redundancy.


For about six weeks, I’ve been successfully using the experimental DNS over HTTPS (DoH) mode 2 with Cloudflare in Firefox on my Win7 system. This process is exclusive to Firefox connectivity. Your system DNS settings and operation remain unaffected nor does system DNS care about what that’s doing in Firefox.
Try this if you’re looking for geek fun and bragging rights. For more info, Google is your friend.


Seems like Eset products are listed only in “Trialware” and not in “Paid”?

Anyway, Eset Nod32 Antivirus is what I’m using now and for the last couple of years.

In recent years I’ve used BitDefender Total Security and Kaspersky Internet Security and still do on a couple of Virtual Machines.

Just curious about the listing.


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I just took the categories from the Wikipedia article I referred to earlier. Trialware is paid but there is a short grace period where use is free.

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This is also what I use- I’m surprised it wasn’t listed, but less well-known ones were

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I’m using free antivirus AVAST. Not sure if it’s really protecting my devices. Thinking about getting a paid one.

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Sorry, @TripleHelix and @5Tx8p7QJfmH4RM4D3eNY, I somehow dropped Webroot from the name.

The Webroot products are listed as SecureAnywhere in the Trialware and Paid N-Z polls i.e. SecureAnywhere Internet Security Plus and Complete.

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Ah okay, that makes sense. Thanks for the reply :slight_smile:

On main pc win 10 : kaspersky anti virus and Voodooshield paid
on laptop and ultrabook : eset nod 32

of course, Glasswire on third.
All run smoothy together.

Hi All,

I currently use Bit Defender, Emsisoft, and run Rogue Killer semi-frequently. All paid versions. *When using Bit Defender the firewall option for Glasswire is deactivated. However, if you have the “Ask to Connect” option selected, it does prompt you when an app or service attempts to connect to the internet.
In case you are interested in purchasing anti-virus/malware, check out https://www.av-comparatives.org/consumer/
It provides up to date test results on some of the major AV/Malware providers. Many sites promote various products. Take a look and decide based on their performance.

Sorry for the re-post…forgot I had already replied :slight_smile:


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Avast + windows security. Had Kaspersky, but it took a lot of my attention.

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I use Waterfox & Firefox browsers , Firefox with no additional security apps for websites that require access to your details and Waterfox for general surfing the web.
Waterfox has UBO & uMatrix +ABP .
Contrary to perceived wisdom UBO & uMatrix dont perform exactly the same tasks ,I also have spent some time in -about : config removing additional tracking which is a big plus in an open system type browser as opposed to a closed one where conditions are set and cant be altered.
I can confirm those security measures work.


Thanks for sharing your experience, Duncan. I didn’t hear about Waterfox till date. Will try it - new thing for me :slight_smile:

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ESET Smart Security on the desktop, Avira Antivirus Free on the laptop for now (it’s annoyingly intrusive). I do also still use as much of the Windows Defender system as I can for redundancy, though ESET does deactivate the firewall in favour of its own. McAffee VirusScan came preinstalled on the laptop, and it’s more trouble to remove than it’s worth, so that’s on there, lol!

Also, I have herdProtect installed on both machines, and run a regular scan with that, just to be safe.

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Win10: Windows Defender + Malwarebytes Paid
Win7: Bitdefender Free

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i’m using avast pro antivirus since more than 5 years, i could say it is the most up to dated and efficient anti virus in the market, it also protects your browser safety and cleans up junk and non-usable data from the system.


Personally I don’t use one, and haven’t in about 10 years. Even then I wouldn’t have anything installed, and would just run a periodic scan with Malwarebyes if something seemed odd. I’ve always been one to play it safe on the webs, and just layer my security.

Glasswire definitely made it easier lol



If I had to choose, it would be the (for some reason not listed at all) Malwarebytes.

Sorry, Malwarebytes was not listed under Windows AV in the Wikipedia article I referenced - it is there for Mac though:

I expect to create new and improved polls in June:

  • reduce Windows list to 19 plus Others option. Include any major AVs that were omitted such as Malwarebytes
  • new poll for free vs paid
  • probably new Mac and Android polls

Thanks for sharing this post. it’s very helped us

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I use an exellent and very different AV system that I haven’t noticed mention of here - SecureAPlus. It works both as a program whitelisting program and as a meta-AV, using a whole gaggle of more widely-known AVs (online), together with a machine-learning system called APEX. By its very nature it does give periodical alerts when unknown programs are installed, but personally I find that reassuring because it’s showing me that it’s doing its job. At any alert I can check up on the safety or otherwise of the program, and then can click the appropriate button to whitelist it as trusted (rather than having to go into a list and jump through hoops to add it to that list.

As it is a very effective and easy-to-use program whitelisting system, theoretically it could stop any malware of any kind in its tracks, provided one applies due care about responding to alerts. While I regard the watertightness of that system as theoretical rather than an absolute reality, it is still a pretty strong layer in my multi-layered security system

SAP has a very generous free trial period (it was a whole year when I started with it) and commendably low subscription cost after that.

I wouldn’t recommend SAP, though, for people who are liable to click too readily on an ‘allow’ or ‘trust’ button!

For behavioural blocking, I find Malwarebytes tiresomely system-heavy, so for the moment am using Zemana Anitmalware (the new v.3 beta) and also trialling OSArmor - intending to run just one of those once I’ve decided which to keep. Cost may be a deciding factor, as OSArmor is free.

I do have to say, though, that OSA is a pig to deal with when I have program installations that create intermediary scripts in stupid places like one’s appdata folder. Creating exclusions is such a tiresome business that now, if I get an installation (that I myself trust) trigger an alert because of a script it’s created, I simply disable OSA temporarily - not a good state of affairs, having to do that!

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